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I know this subject comes up allot.....and I thought I would throw a greenade in and so it again🤣
In all seriousness I seen a few clips from the debate last night and it looked worrying to say the least. Theres talk about him being replaced and some democrats concerned about his performance. So you think he will be replaced? And by who? Are the clips not really representative of the whole debate?
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Jun 28, 2024 15:13
As Vamp's alter ego I wanted to add.... |
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Jun 28, 2024 15:14 🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
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Deleted User Jun 28, 2024 15:17
A few thoughts. |
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Jun 28, 2024 15:22 I sort of agree the debates themselves dont actually change peoples minds it's probably people already interested in politics that are watching..however I think the headlines afterwards might impact the undecideds to an extent. In the UK the sun newspaper had an enormous impact on how the election went here with their headlines and reporting of events. Biden looks to me to be protrayed as a bumbling old man after last night and I think that could influence allot of people. Albeit maybe I have a different outlook across the pond. |
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Deleted User Jun 28, 2024 15:28 Ah yes, but let’s consider the possible motives behind how the media covers this. If you’re the “liberal” media, and much of it does lean Left, perhaps it behooves you to portray the situation as more dire in order to stimulate more people to vote. The more people who vote, the more likely it is that a Democrat will win, usually. They certainly can’t benefit by saying everything is perfectly fine and Trump ISN’T a threat. |
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Jun 28, 2024 15:38
I think we know the right wing media would potray him that way. But the reaction of the left and of the democrat officials is the worrying part. |
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Deleted User Jun 28, 2024 15:40 The spin I’ve heard is that his preppers were bad and gave him a stupid strategy. The Dems always do this in debates though, they wonk out about policy and put everyone to sleep. Nothing new there. |
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Deleted User Jun 28, 2024 16:01 Everyone is panicking. Biden was a bit lackluster, either way he will wipe the floor with Trump. Trump is a bombastic idiot. |
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Jun 28, 2024 17:57
He is cooked and definitely done for. |
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Jun 28, 2024 17:58 *All the s**t he is responsible for over the last 4 years |
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Deleted User Jun 28, 2024 18:30 People much smarter and more well informed than you are picking Biden and for it to not be close. The undecideds, who don’t answer pollsters, are highly unlikely to vote for a criminal. But you can feel free to since that’s clearly the type of person you look up to. |
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Jun 28, 2024 20:21
Anybody is better than Biden including RFK jnr |
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Deleted User Jun 28, 2024 20:42 Not just your intelligence, sir, but also your fake values. You’re correct to point out that Biden’s hair sniffing thing is weird, but to then turn around and support the man who literally told the world that he would fück his own daughter if she was not his daughter is what’s called being a hypocrite. You have been brainwashed into a cult of personality and can’t see the many, many faults in your leader. By contrast, most of the people who will end up voting for Biden (and it will once again be a many millions majority since the only thing that truly “owns the libs” is the electoral college) recognize his faults and lament that he’s the only viable alternative to a convicted felon who refuses to disavow political violence in the event that he loses (again). |
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Jun 28, 2024 23:21 People who actually like Trump for his personality are a different kind of f**ked up. |
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Jun 29, 2024 01:21 Real talk; forget party lines, a convicted felon is not a better option than Biden. A convicted felon is not a better option than anyone to be the leader of a country. |
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Deleted User Jun 29, 2024 01:28 Its simply hard to watch in general, its like a distraction "i'm in the deep state" honestly i can't even think of how it will go, look at when trump WAS elected, everyone was 0_0 huh?! but honestly i have no clue what is happening with it all. i honestly hope some solid changes are made, and that our very corrupt world can work its self out? |
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Deleted User Jun 29, 2024 22:08 What’s crazy is that both parties have had so long to develop an alternative to this shït show and have just sat on their hands and let everything continue to unravel with these two (differently) unstable characters. As an independent and unaffiliated voter, I’m especially disappointed in the Republicans, because the further and further the Democrats descend into Woke madness, the more and more likely I will be to vote for a SANE candidate on the opposite side. They have yet to provide one, and the guy they HAVE anointed is completely unacceptable. |
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Deleted User Jun 29, 2024 22:33
I tried to watch it but wasn't really interested. Biden may not have demita but his age dose affect him. My bf should me a clip of him needing help down the stairs. |
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Deleted User Jun 30, 2024 00:14 @Flyxglitter: You thought about voting for Trump? |
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Deleted User Jun 30, 2024 01:18 Yeah one would think that would be totally disqualifying. Nothing is disqualifying for this guy though, in the eyes of his followers. It is indeed crazy. |
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Deleted User Jun 30, 2024 01:36 We are a bunch of wackos, haha. |
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Deleted User Jun 30, 2024 03:18 Flyxglitter, can I ask why you have abstained from voting up to this point? No judgment, just curious. |
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Jun 30, 2024 19:54 Project 2025 is a manifesto of facism that seeks to invoke Christian Nationalism into American society while simultaneously dismantling laws to prevent discrimination on all grounds and equates homosexuality and transgender people to having a mental disorder and immediately remove them from the military let alone remove leaders who are accredited scientists from government and replace them with people who have managerial expertise not a scientific background that would compromise public health. Running with the idea that climate change is a hoax and that we need to frack the arctic. Just complete lunacy. Trump is the figurehead of this so no he won nothing. |
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Deleted User Jun 30, 2024 23:24 Grumman, politics isn't my strongest point so I tend to hesitate until I miss the opportunity to vote. And for the last couple of elections we didn't have the best candidates. And then there's so much a president can do before needing approval of Congress and senators. |
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Jul 12, 2024 12:07 I'm not too worried about Uncle Joe's senility - America didn't fall apart during Reagan's seconds term, and that guy didn't know what year it was. It coped with the second Bush, and he was as sharp as a baseball. But Trump is stupider than Bush Jr, more crooked than Nixon, and brings a narcissism all of his own that has already challenged the checks and balances that keep America on an even keel. |
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Deleted User Jul 12, 2024 13:21 When you talk to the average Trump voter (usually not a MAGA diehard), they’ll tell you they think Biden is actually the greater threat to democracy and freedom. It’s absurd, the level of backwards nonsense in conservative “news” media that just gets absorbed uncritically by people who I don’t consider to be extremists or fanatics. |
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Deleted User Jul 12, 2024 13:44 Biden was too old when he became president at 78, clearly we need someone young and hip like Trump to become president now that he is... 78... Wait f**k... |
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Jul 21, 2024 00:45
FDR as far as I am aware is the only president who has been elected to be president 4 times. After his death it was decided a president can only serve 2 terms. Will the law be changed so that you can not be elected if you are over 80?? |
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Jul 21, 2024 04:33
I've felt like the whole plan was to put Biden out front for a bit, and then replace him. I've been saying this since the first debate, "Trump will win, no doubt, I've felt this way since before the debate, but if they pull Biden out, their replacement will win, no matter who it is." |
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Jul 21, 2024 04:43
Has anyone seen the video of Biden talking to a bunch of reporters, and lying his ass off about his college experience and a number of other bold, flat out lies? Someone fact checked him on it and turns out, he was full of s**t. Another layer of humor to all of this is he was telling a reporter who challenged him how educated he was, and how he knows better because of all his accomplishments, and turns out it was mostly lies and massive embellishments. Kinda funny. |
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Jul 21, 2024 04:49 Hour zero, do you believe all of that will happen? It sounds so fantastical compared as to what the actual reality is. Yeah, maybe some of it bares some resemblance to reality, but certainly not all of it. It's turning a mole hill into a mountain. Not to mention, fascism, I see way more fascism from the left than I do the right. |
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Jul 21, 2024 23:49 Annnnnnnd he's out of the race. |
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Deleted User Jul 21, 2024 23:56 I think he's still allowed to be white even if he isnt running for president anymore. |
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Deleted User Jul 22, 2024 00:45
This is surprising to me and feels like Democratic Party panic. I swear they hurt themselves more than anything else. The Dems don’t know how to play hardball anymore, they don’t know how to circle the wagons and defend their guy, all they want to do is purity testing and whine about how much Trump still lies. It’s a party with no balls whatsoever, not only to stand up to Trump for the unqualified criminal fücktard he is and always has been, but to stand up to their Wokester wing and tell them to shut the fück up for the sake of the free world. |
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Jul 22, 2024 01:31
@jay 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Yeah, he can, but he has to re-apply. Usually they'll get their application pulled, so it doesn't have to start at the back, but not always. |
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Jul 22, 2024 07:38 mr trump is a funny guy |
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Jul 22, 2024 09:25
Not a surprise tbh its been coming for a couple of weeks now. |
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Deleted User Jul 22, 2024 12:44
What I don't understand is why do the Democrats think Joe Biden isn't fit anymore to run for president yet is fit enough to finish out the rest of the year. |
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Deleted User Jul 22, 2024 14:19 You... don't understand the difference between a couple of months and 4 years? |
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Deleted User Jul 22, 2024 14:24 Why would Trump run away with the race, or even win, Thrones? His mere presence is going to inspire every Democrat to vote against him, so I can’t see voter turnout being a problem. For the independents and undecideds who still had reservations about Biden’s competency, that’s no longer a factor. Trump is still a criminal, he’s still a major threat to the American system of democracy and our alliances abroad, and he’s still a moral black hole. Just because his base is attaching religious significance to his surviving an assassination attempt doesn’t mean anyone else is energized by it. |
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Jul 22, 2024 15:31
I've got a feeling Trump's gonna win, and America will have to deal with another four years of incompetence, grift and chaos. And in a way, I reckon America deserves it. The progressive voices in the States have spent way too much time staring up their own arseholes instead of focusing on s**t that makes peoples lives better. |
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Deleted User Jul 22, 2024 16:12
I doubt Trump will win, because people hate him so much. Honestly I don't know how I feel about Harris because she's yet to do anything of importantance. The southern border is still really bad and she was supposed to be in charge of fixing it. Her solution in 2021 basically was to pay Mexico to deal with the problem... idk we shall see. |
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Jul 22, 2024 16:44
I think from the outside the democrats look like a mess who have been lying to the public Gru. Also from what I can gather Harris isnt that popular so many people wont vote for her and it looks likely she will get the nomination. All Trump needs to say is Harris backed a man who was clearly old and f**ked. How can get judgement be good enough to run the country? Either that or she was being dishonest when she backed him and |
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Jul 22, 2024 16:46
On the odds |
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Deleted User Jul 22, 2024 17:15
Oddsmaking at this early a stage is so pointless. The oddsmakers try to predict the winner of the Super Bowl, World Series, and Stanley Cup at several times during the sports year too and they’re almost always wrong. And their calculations obviously change throughout the course of events as things no one could ever predict to happen nonetheless do happen. |
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Jul 22, 2024 17:18 The bookies rarely lose big style and you never see a poor bookie. It gives a good insight into the state of play as it stands just now to develop discussion. But you are correct that anything can happen like I said "long way to go still" |
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Jul 22, 2024 17:41 I dunno, Trump's casino went broke. |
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Jul 22, 2024 17:46 True🤣🤣🤣 |
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Jul 22, 2024 18:16 Place yerrr bets... it has been pretty close the past two times sooo..... anything could happen in the next 60 minutes. |
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Deleted User Jul 22, 2024 18:17 Wise pokemon trainers never get involved in a cat fight. |